Homeschooling Teens: Why “Do Nothing” Deschooling Backfires and How Eclectic Unschoolers Use Guardrails Instead | Janae Daniels

Many parents are told to “just deschool and do nothing” after pulling their kids out of traditional school—but with middle school and high schoolers, that advice often backfires.

In this conversation with former middle school teacher turned homeschooling mom Janae Daniels, host of the School to Homeschool podcast, we talk about why older kids struggle most with doing “nothing” and why their brains crave structure after years in the system. Janae shares how her family—and the families she coaches—use simple academic guardrails in reading, writing, and math as a bridge into homeschooling.

You’ll hear why teens often say “I don’t want to do anything… but I need to do something,” and how moving toward an eclectic unschooler approach can honor both their need for routine and their growing independence. We explore what eclectic unschooling looks like in real life: mixing a few structured subjects with child-led learning, embracing boredom as a spark for curiosity, and using tools like strewing and a rich home environment as “teachers.”

If you’re pulling an older child out of school—or considering it—this episode will help you decide which subjects need guardrails, what can truly wait, and how to transition toward a more eclectic, interest-driven homeschool without losing your teen in the process.

If this episode of The Brainy Moms Podcast with Dr. Amy Moore and Sandy Zamalis helps, subscribe, share it with a friend who’s considering homeschooling a teen, and leave a quick review so more parents can find us. What’s the biggest fear or hope you have about homeschooling a teen?

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Open Education: Your Child Deserves a Learning Path as Unique as They Are | Matt Bowman

Homeschooling or thinking about it? Wondering if ‘open education’ is right for your homeschooled child? What if everything we thought we knew about education was designed for a world that no longer exists? Matt Bowman, founder of OpenEd and international bestselling author, joins Dr. Amy and Sandy on this episode of The Brainy Moms Podcast to challenge the foundations of traditional education and offer a refreshingly practical alternative for today’s families who are homeschooling or considering it.

After watching all five of his children develop in completely different ways despite growing up in the same household, Matt realized that education shouldn’t be one-size-fits-all—it should be as unique as each child.

The conversation dives deep into why standard education often fails to meet individual needs. Matt explains how our current system was originally modeled after military training methods imported from Europe over 200 years ago—designed to produce obedient soldiers rather than creative, independent thinkers. This standardization approach stands in stark contrast to how children actually learn and develop.

“The real tragedy,” Matt shares, “is that this system not only fails to measure what matters in education—creativity, continuous progress, critical thinking, skill development—it actively works against it.” For parents whose children are struggling, unhappy, or just not thriving, Matt offers a revolutionary yet simple starting point: take two weeks to try something different. Give your child space to explore their interests without pressure, and watch what naturally emerges.

One of the most powerful insights Matt shares is reframing our understanding of failure. While traditional education treats failure as something to avoid at all costs, successful athletes, musicians, and entrepreneurs embrace it as essential to growth. Teaching children to see challenges as “not yet” rather than failure fundamentally transforms their relationship with learning.

With AI rapidly changing our economic landscape, the skills that matter most aren’t standardized test scores but creativity, adaptability, and entrepreneurial thinking. Matt encourages parents to tap into community resources—museums, local businesses, nature, arts programs—and integrate them into core education rather than treating them as mere enrichment.

For families ready to explore alternatives, Matt reminds us that small changes can make an enormous difference. Whether it’s adjusting schedules, exploring interests, or incorporating entrepreneurship, the goal isn’t to replicate school at home but to create learning experiences that honor each child’s unique path.

Join us to get inspired about personalizing an education that works for your unique child.

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The “Unschooling” Homeschooling Movement with guest Ashley Logsdon

Are you thinking about homeschooling for your children? Are you already homeschooling but still wondering if it’s the best fit for your family? On this episode of Brainy Moms, Dr. Amy Moore and Teri Miller, MS Psy interview Ashley Logsdon, host of the Mama Says Namaste podcast and an expert in the unschooling movement. Ashley breaks it all down for us and even answers some tough questions about unschooling as an alternative to homeschooling as we know it. Tune in to this eye-opening episode on educational choice. 

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